Dear friends,
Coronal Loops 5 will take place next year in Mallorca, Spain, and it is now time to form the Scientific Organizing Committee (SOC). We have decided to make the selection of the SOC a more formal process than it has been in the past. To that end, we have established bylaws for the Coronal Loops Workshop Series (attached). The first step was to elect a Steering Committee from among the 20 founding members---those who attended at least 3 of the first 4 workshops. This has just been completed. The next step is for the Steering Committee to elect 5 of 7 members of the SOC. The new SOC chair, Inaki Ugarte Urra, and past chair, Joan Schmelz, are automatically members. The purpose of this e-mail is to ask the broader loops community for nominees to serve on the SOC. A slate of candidates will then be presented to the Steering Committee for a vote. If you would like to nominate yourself or someone else, with their permission, please send me an e-mail at James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.govmailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov by the end of the day next Monday, July 12. Sorry for the short fuse, but there are reasons for acting quickly.
Thanks, Jim
P.S. In Mallorca, we will discuss the bylaws and whether they should be modified.
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Phone: 1-301-286-9060 Fax: 1-301-286-7194 E-mail: James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.govmailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov Home page: http://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/671/staff/bios/cs/James_Klimchuk_ssi.html
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Jim, sorry that I appear to have been very quiet in regard to all of this. And I still got voted onto the committee. There are several reasons for my lack of immediate response including the fact that my boss (the Pro Vice Chancellor) has just announced he is leaving and I have a load of his extra work to do (in the short term anyway).
Just to assure you, loops will continue to remain my research focus, although I have now "lost" Aveek. However, I have just employed Stephane Reginer from StA on a two year position who is a pretty good guy.
Hope you are well. All the best, Robert
Sent from my iPad
On 8 Jul 2010, at 22:27, "Klimchuk, James A. (GSFC-6710)" james.a.klimchuk@nasa.gov wrote:
Dear friends,
Coronal Loops 5 will take place next year in Mallorca, Spain, and it is now time to form the Scientific Organizing Committee (SOC). We have decided to make the selection of the SOC a more formal process than it has been in the past. To that end, we have established bylaws for the Coronal Loops Workshop Series (attached). The first step was to elect a Steering Committee from among the 20 founding members---those who attended at least 3 of the first 4 workshops. This has just been completed. The next step is for the Steering Committee to elect 5 of 7 members of the SOC. The new SOC chair, Inaki Ugarte Urra, and past chair, Joan Schmelz, are automatically members. The purpose of this e-mail is to ask the broader loops community for nominees to serve on the SOC. A slate of candidates will then be presented to the Steering Committee for a vote. If you would like to nominate yourself or someone else, with their permission, please send me an e-mail at James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov by the end of the day next Monday, July 12. Sorry for the short fuse, but there are reasons for acting quickly.
Thanks,
Jim
P.S. In Mallorca, we will discuss the bylaws and whether they should be modified.
James A. Klimchuk
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Solar Physics Lab, Code 671
Bldg. 21, Rm. 158
Greenbelt, MD 20771
USA
Phone: 1-301-286-9060
Fax: 1-301-286-7194
E-mail: James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov
Home page: http://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/671/staff/bios/cs/James_Klimchuk_ssi.html
No endorsement by NASA is implied for any correspondence related to my role as an officer of professional organizations (American Geophysical Union, American Astronomical Society, International Astronomical Union).
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Hi Robert,
I’m glad to hear that you are ok, other than being extremely busy. I was starting to get concerned, but I figured you were on vacation. Do you remember what those are?! I really hope you are able to stay active in loops research. Hiring Stephane will be helpful.
All the best, Jim
From: loops-bounces@solar.physics.montana.edu [mailto:loops-bounces@solar.physics.montana.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Walsh Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:12 PM To: A mailing list for scientists involved in the observation and modeling of solar loop structures Subject: Re: [Loops] Loops Workshop SOC
Jim, sorry that I appear to have been very quiet in regard to all of this. And I still got voted onto the committee. There are several reasons for my lack of immediate response including the fact that my boss (the Pro Vice Chancellor) has just announced he is leaving and I have a load of his extra work to do (in the short term anyway).
Just to assure you, loops will continue to remain my research focus, although I have now "lost" Aveek. However, I have just employed Stephane Reginer from StA on a two year position who is a pretty good guy.
Hope you are well. All the best, Robert
Sent from my iPad
On 8 Jul 2010, at 22:27, "Klimchuk, James A. (GSFC-6710)" <james.a.klimchuk@nasa.govmailto:james.a.klimchuk@nasa.gov> wrote: Dear friends,
Coronal Loops 5 will take place next year in Mallorca, Spain, and it is now time to form the Scientific Organizing Committee (SOC). We have decided to make the selection of the SOC a more formal process than it has been in the past. To that end, we have established bylaws for the Coronal Loops Workshop Series (attached). The first step was to elect a Steering Committee from among the 20 founding members---those who attended at least 3 of the first 4 workshops. This has just been completed. The next step is for the Steering Committee to elect 5 of 7 members of the SOC. The new SOC chair, Inaki Ugarte Urra, and past chair, Joan Schmelz, are automatically members. The purpose of this e-mail is to ask the broader loops community for nominees to serve on the SOC. A slate of candidates will then be presented to the Steering Committee for a vote. If you would like to nominate yourself or someone else, with their permission, please send me an e-mail at James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.govmailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov by the end of the day next Monday, July 12. Sorry for the short fuse, but there are reasons for acting quickly.
Thanks, Jim
P.S. In Mallorca, we will discuss the bylaws and whether they should be modified.
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Phone: 1-301-286-9060 Fax: 1-301-286-7194 E-mail: James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.govmailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov Home page: http://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/671/staff/bios/cs/James_Klimchuk_ssi.html
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I volunteer for the SOC. Best Fabio
On 07/08/2010 11:27 PM, Klimchuk, James A. (GSFC-6710) wrote:
Dear friends,
Coronal Loops 5 will take place next year in Mallorca, Spain, and
it is now time to form the Scientific Organizing Committee (SOC). We have decided to make the selection of the SOC a more formal process than it has been in the past. To that end, we have established bylaws for the Coronal Loops Workshop Series (attached). The first step was to elect a Steering Committee from among the 20 founding members---those who attended at least 3 of the first 4 workshops. This has just been completed. The next step is for the Steering Committee to elect 5 of 7 members of the SOC. The new SOC chair, Inaki Ugarte Urra, and past chair, Joan Schmelz, are automatically members. The purpose of this e-mail is to ask the broader loops community for nominees to serve on the SOC. A slate of candidates will then be presented to the Steering Committee for a vote. If you would like to nominate yourself or someone else, with their permission, please send me an e-mail at James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov mailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov by the end of the day next Monday, July 12. Sorry for the short fuse, but there are reasons for acting quickly.
Thanks,
Jim
P.S. In Mallorca, we will discuss the bylaws and whether they should be modified.
James A. Klimchuk
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Solar Physics Lab, Code 671
Bldg. 21, Rm. 158
Greenbelt, MD 20771
USA
Phone: 1-301-286-9060
Fax: 1-301-286-7194
E-mail: James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov mailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov
Home page: http://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/671/staff/bios/cs/James_Klimchuk_ssi.html
No endorsement by NASA is implied for any correspondence related to my role as an officer of professional organizations (American Geophysical Union, American Astronomical Society, International Astronomical Union).
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Excellent!
From: loops-bounces@solar.physics.montana.edu [mailto:loops-bounces@solar.physics.montana.edu] On Behalf Of Fabio Reale Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 5:49 AM To: A mailing list for scientists involved in the observation and modeling of solar loop structures Subject: Re: [Loops] Loops Workshop SOC
I volunteer for the SOC. Best Fabio
On 07/08/2010 11:27 PM, Klimchuk, James A. (GSFC-6710) wrote: Dear friends,
Coronal Loops 5 will take place next year in Mallorca, Spain, and it is now time to form the Scientific Organizing Committee (SOC). We have decided to make the selection of the SOC a more formal process than it has been in the past. To that end, we have established bylaws for the Coronal Loops Workshop Series (attached). The first step was to elect a Steering Committee from among the 20 founding members---those who attended at least 3 of the first 4 workshops. This has just been completed. The next step is for the Steering Committee to elect 5 of 7 members of the SOC. The new SOC chair, Inaki Ugarte Urra, and past chair, Joan Schmelz, are automatically members. The purpose of this e-mail is to ask the broader loops community for nominees to serve on the SOC. A slate of candidates will then be presented to the Steering Committee for a vote. If you would like to nominate yourself or someone else, with their permission, please send me an e-mail at James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.govmailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov by the end of the day next Monday, July 12. Sorry for the short fuse, but there are reasons for acting quickly.
Thanks, Jim
P.S. In Mallorca, we will discuss the bylaws and whether they should be modified.
******************************************************************************** James A. Klimchuk NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Solar Physics Lab, Code 671 Bldg. 21, Rm. 158 Greenbelt, MD 20771 USA
Phone: 1-301-286-9060 Fax: 1-301-286-7194 E-mail: James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.govmailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov Home page: http://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/671/staff/bios/cs/James_Klimchuk_ssi.html
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Everyone,
I apologize for all the e-mails that are going to the full listserve. Please be careful when you do a replay (which I was not). If the From: has "loops-bounces@solar.physics.montana.edu: on behalf of Somebodymailto:loops-bounces@solar.physics.montana.edu:%20%20on%20behalf%20of%20Somebody", then your reply will go to the whole group.
Sorry once again, Jim
From: loops-bounces@solar.physics.montana.edu [mailto:loops-bounces@solar.physics.montana.edu] On Behalf Of Klimchuk, James A. (GSFC-6710) Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:57 AM To: A mailing list for scientists involved in the observation and modeling of solar loop structures Subject: Re: [Loops] Loops Workshop SOC
Excellent!
From: loops-bounces@solar.physics.montana.edu [mailto:loops-bounces@solar.physics.montana.edu] On Behalf Of Fabio Reale Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 5:49 AM To: A mailing list for scientists involved in the observation and modeling of solar loop structures Subject: Re: [Loops] Loops Workshop SOC
I volunteer for the SOC. Best Fabio
On 07/08/2010 11:27 PM, Klimchuk, James A. (GSFC-6710) wrote: Dear friends,
Coronal Loops 5 will take place next year in Mallorca, Spain, and it is now time to form the Scientific Organizing Committee (SOC). We have decided to make the selection of the SOC a more formal process than it has been in the past. To that end, we have established bylaws for the Coronal Loops Workshop Series (attached). The first step was to elect a Steering Committee from among the 20 founding members---those who attended at least 3 of the first 4 workshops. This has just been completed. The next step is for the Steering Committee to elect 5 of 7 members of the SOC. The new SOC chair, Inaki Ugarte Urra, and past chair, Joan Schmelz, are automatically members. The purpose of this e-mail is to ask the broader loops community for nominees to serve on the SOC. A slate of candidates will then be presented to the Steering Committee for a vote. If you would like to nominate yourself or someone else, with their permission, please send me an e-mail at James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.govmailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov by the end of the day next Monday, July 12. Sorry for the short fuse, but there are reasons for acting quickly.
Thanks, Jim
P.S. In Mallorca, we will discuss the bylaws and whether they should be modified.
******************************************************************************** James A. Klimchuk NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Solar Physics Lab, Code 671 Bldg. 21, Rm. 158 Greenbelt, MD 20771 USA
Phone: 1-301-286-9060 Fax: 1-301-286-7194 E-mail: James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.govmailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov Home page: http://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/671/staff/bios/cs/James_Klimchuk_ssi.html
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HI Jim,
This is great the Loops Workshops series will continue. Barbara & myself will certainly be interested in attending and making contributions, however we rather would not be (at present) able to help in organizational aspects due to some health problems.
Thanks so much
Barbara & Janusz
From: loops-bounces@solar.physics.montana.edu [mailto:loops-bounces@solar.physics.montana.edu] On Behalf Of Klimchuk, James A. (GSFC-6710) Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:27 PM To: (Loops@solar.physics.montana.edu) Subject: [Loops] Loops Workshop SOC
Dear friends,
Coronal Loops 5 will take place next year in Mallorca, Spain, and it is now time to form the Scientific Organizing Committee (SOC). We have decided to make the selection of the SOC a more formal process than it has been in the past. To that end, we have established bylaws for the Coronal Loops Workshop Series (attached). The first step was to elect a Steering Committee from among the 20 founding members---those who attended at least 3 of the first 4 workshops. This has just been completed. The next step is for the Steering Committee to elect 5 of 7 members of the SOC. The new SOC chair, Inaki Ugarte Urra, and past chair, Joan Schmelz, are automatically members. The purpose of this e-mail is to ask the broader loops community for nominees to serve on the SOC. A slate of candidates will then be presented to the Steering Committee for a vote. If you would like to nominate yourself or someone else, with their permission, please send me an e-mail at James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov by the end of the day next Monday, July 12. Sorry for the short fuse, but there are reasons for acting quickly.
Thanks,
Jim
P.S. In Mallorca, we will discuss the bylaws and whether they should be modified.
**************************************************************************** ****
James A. Klimchuk
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Solar Physics Lab, Code 671
Bldg. 21, Rm. 158
Greenbelt, MD 20771
USA
Phone: 1-301-286-9060
Fax: 1-301-286-7194
E-mail: James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov
Home page: http://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/671/staff/bios/cs/James_Klimchuk_ssi.html
No endorsement by NASA is implied for any correspondence related to my role as an officer of professional organizations (American Geophysical Union, American Astronomical Society, International Astronomical Union).
**************************************************************************** ****
Jim,
I would also like to be on the SOC.
Best wishes,
Harry
On 7/8/10 2:27 PM, "Klimchuk, James A. (GSFC-6710)" james.a.klimchuk@nasa.gov wrote:
Dear friends,
Coronal Loops 5 will take place next year in Mallorca, Spain, and it is
now time to form the Scientific Organizing Committee (SOC). We have decided to make the selection of the SOC a more formal process than it has been in the past. To that end, we have established bylaws for the Coronal Loops Workshop Series (attached). The first step was to elect a Steering Committee from among the 20 founding members---those who attended at least 3 of the first 4 workshops. This has just been completed. The next step is for the Steering Committee to elect 5 of 7 members of the SOC. The new SOC chair, Inaki Ugarte Urra, and past chair, Joan Schmelz, are automatically members. The purpose of this e-mail is to ask the broader loops community for nominees to serve on the SOC. A slate of candidates will then be presented to the Steering Committee for a vote. If you would like to nominate yourself or someone else, with their permission, please send me an e-mail at James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov by the end of the day next Monday, July 12. Sorry for the short fuse, but there are reasons for acting quickly.
Thanks, Jim
P.S. In Mallorca, we will discuss the bylaws and whether they should be modified.
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Dear Jim,
happy to serve on SOC.
Best wishes, helen
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010, Harry Warren wrote:
Jim,
I would also like to be on the SOC.
Best wishes,
Harry
On 7/8/10 2:27 PM, "Klimchuk, James A. (GSFC-6710)" james.a.klimchuk@nasa.gov wrote:
Dear friends,
Coronal Loops 5 will take place next year in Mallorca, Spain, and it is
now time to form the Scientific Organizing Committee (SOC). We have decided to make the selection of the SOC a more formal process than it has been in the past. To that end, we have established bylaws for the Coronal Loops Workshop Series (attached). The first step was to elect a Steering Committee from among the 20 founding members---those who attended at least 3 of the first 4 workshops. This has just been completed. The next step is for the Steering Committee to elect 5 of 7 members of the SOC. The new SOC chair, Inaki Ugarte Urra, and past chair, Joan Schmelz, are automatically members. The purpose of this e-mail is to ask the broader loops community for nominees to serve on the SOC. A slate of candidates will then be presented to the Steering Committee for a vote. If you would like to nominate yourself or someone else, with their permission, please send me an e-mail at James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov by the end of the day next Monday, July 12. Sorry for the short fuse, but there are reasons for acting quickly.
Thanks, Jim
P.S. In Mallorca, we will discuss the bylaws and whether they should be modified.
** James A. Klimchuk NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Solar Physics Lab, Code 671 Bldg. 21, Rm. 158 Greenbelt, MD 20771 USA
Phone: 1-301-286-9060 Fax: 1-301-286-7194 E-mail: James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov mailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov Home page: http://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/671/staff/bios/cs/James_Klimchuk_ssi.html http://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/671/staff/bios/cs/James_Klimchuk_ssi.html
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Dear Jim,
I would suggest Susanna Parenti or Eric Buchlin (or both !) for the SOC.
Best regards, jean-claude
Klimchuk, James A. (GSFC-6710) a écrit :
Dear friends,
Coronal Loops 5 will take place next year in Mallorca, Spain, and
it is now time to form the Scientific Organizing Committee (SOC). We have decided to make the selection of the SOC a more formal process than it has been in the past. To that end, we have established bylaws for the Coronal Loops Workshop Series (attached). The first step was to elect a Steering Committee from among the 20 founding members---those who attended at least 3 of the first 4 workshops. This has just been completed. The next step is for the Steering Committee to elect 5 of 7 members of the SOC. The new SOC chair, Inaki Ugarte Urra, and past chair, Joan Schmelz, are automatically members. The purpose of this e-mail is to ask the broader loops community for nominees to serve on the SOC. A slate of candidates will then be presented to the Steering Committee for a vote. If you would like to nominate yourself or someone else, with their permission, please send me an e-mail at James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov mailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov by the end of the day next Monday, July 12. Sorry for the short fuse, but there are reasons for acting quickly.
Thanks,
Jim
P.S. In Mallorca, we will discuss the bylaws and whether they should be modified.
James A. Klimchuk
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Solar Physics Lab, Code 671
Bldg. 21, Rm. 158
Greenbelt, MD 20771
USA
Phone: 1-301-286-9060
Fax: 1-301-286-7194
E-mail: James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov mailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov
Home page: http://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/671/staff/bios/cs/James_Klimchuk_ssi.html
No endorsement by NASA is implied for any correspondence related to my role as an officer of professional organizations (American Geophysical Union, American Astronomical Society, International Astronomical Union).
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Hi,
Allow me to present a contrarian point of view.
As initially conceived the loops workshops were committed to solving a while defined, but complex science problem: "What are the physical processes that define the structure and evolution of coronal loops"
Three years of observations with STEREO and Hinode (in addition to continued supporting observations from SOHO, TRACE and RHESSI) have provided critical observations, models have evolved and great progress is being made.
Given this, why are we not planning on closing down the Loops Workshops, declaring victory and going home?
There is a real danger in continuing to isolate the "loops community" from the solar/heliospheric community. We have seen this in the past with the heliosiesmology, they spent decades talking to themselves rather then engaging with the rest of the community. So I would suggest the the Mallorca meeting be the final loops workshop and that scientists reintegrate themselves into the solar community.
With respect, Ed
Klimchuk, James A. (GSFC-6710) wrote:
Dear friends,
Coronal Loops 5 will take place next year in Mallorca, Spain, and
it is now time to form the Scientific Organizing Committee (SOC). We have decided to make the selection of the SOC a more formal process than it has been in the past. To that end, we have established bylaws for the Coronal Loops Workshop Series (attached). The first step was to elect a Steering Committee from among the 20 founding members---those who attended at least 3 of the first 4 workshops. This has just been completed. The next step is for the Steering Committee to elect 5 of 7 members of the SOC. The new SOC chair, Inaki Ugarte Urra, and past chair, Joan Schmelz, are automatically members. The purpose of this e-mail is to ask the broader loops community for nominees to serve on the SOC. A slate of candidates will then be presented to the Steering Committee for a vote. If you would like to nominate yourself or someone else, with their permission, please send me an e-mail at James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov mailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov by the end of the day next Monday, July 12. Sorry for the short fuse, but there are reasons for acting quickly.
Thanks,
Jim
P.S. In Mallorca, we will discuss the bylaws and whether they should be modified.
James A. Klimchuk
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Solar Physics Lab, Code 671
Bldg. 21, Rm. 158
Greenbelt, MD 20771
USA
Phone: 1-301-286-9060
Fax: 1-301-286-7194
E-mail: James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov mailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov
Home page: http://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/671/staff/bios/cs/James_Klimchuk_ssi.html
No endorsement by NASA is implied for any correspondence related to my role as an officer of professional organizations (American Geophysical Union, American Astronomical Society, International Astronomical Union).
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Dear All,
Although Ed's plea to talk to larger communities has some merit, it is really the smaller focused workshops that allow for in-depth discussions that hardly take place in huge meetings (like SPD, AGU, COSPAR, etc). There is just too much on the table at big meetings, so that we get lost in superficial discussions and parallel sessions. I think we need both.
Cheers, Markus
On Jul 9, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Ed Deluca wrote:
Hi,
Allow me to present a contrarian point of view.
As initially conceived the loops workshops were committed to solving a while defined, but complex science problem: "What are the physical processes that define the structure and evolution of coronal loops"
Three years of observations with STEREO and Hinode (in addition to continued supporting observations from SOHO, TRACE and RHESSI) have provided critical observations, models have evolved and great progress is being made.
Given this, why are we not planning on closing down the Loops Workshops, declaring victory and going home?
There is a real danger in continuing to isolate the "loops community" from the solar/heliospheric community. We have seen this in the past with the heliosiesmology, they spent decades talking to themselves rather then engaging with the rest of the community. So I would suggest the the Mallorca meeting be the final loops workshop and that scientists reintegrate themselves into the solar community.
With respect,
Ed
____________________________________________ Dr. Markus J. Aschwanden Solar & Astrophysics Laboratory Lockheed Martin Advanced Techology Center Org. ADBS, Bldg. 252 3251 Hanover St., Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA Phone: 650-424-4001, FAX: 650-424-3994 URL: http://www.lmsal.com/~aschwand/ e-mail: aschwanden@lmsal.com _______________________________________ ____________________________________
Dear All,
I think that the ultimate goal in coronal loops science is to understand how coronal heating works for closed magnetic fields. This is really a very general problem in solar physics going well beyond coronal loops.
Best Wishes
Spiros
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Markus J. Aschwanden aschwanden@lmsal.comwrote:
Dear All,
Although Ed's plea to talk to larger communities has some merit, it is really the smaller focused workshops that allow for in-depth discussions that hardly take place in huge meetings (like SPD, AGU, COSPAR, etc). There is just too much on the table at big meetings, so that we get lost in superficial discussions and parallel sessions. I think we need both.
Cheers, Markus
On Jul 9, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Ed Deluca wrote:
Hi,
Allow me to present a contrarian point of view.
As initially conceived the loops workshops were committed to solving a while defined, but complex science problem: "What are the physical processes that define the structure and evolution of coronal loops"
Three years of observations with STEREO and Hinode (in addition to continued supporting observations from SOHO, TRACE and RHESSI) have provided critical observations, models have evolved and great progress is being made.
Given this, why are we not planning on closing down the Loops Workshops, declaring victory and going home?
There is a real danger in continuing to isolate the "loops community" from the solar/heliospheric community. We have seen this in the past with the heliosiesmology, they spent decades talking to themselves rather then engaging with the rest of the community. So I would suggest the the Mallorca meeting be the final loops workshop and that scientists reintegrate themselves into the solar community.
With respect,
Ed
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Spiros,
Agreed.
Piet
Spiros Patsourakos wrote:
Dear All,
I think that the ultimate goal in coronal loops science is to understand how coronal heating works for closed magnetic fields. This is really a very general problem in solar physics going well beyond coronal loops.
Best Wishes
Spiros
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Markus J. Aschwanden <aschwanden@lmsal.com mailto:aschwanden@lmsal.com> wrote:
Dear All, Although Ed's plea to talk to larger communities has some merit, it is really the smaller focused workshops that allow for in-depth discussions that hardly take place in huge meetings (like SPD, AGU, COSPAR, etc). There is just too much on the table at big meetings, so that we get lost in superficial discussions and parallel sessions. I think we need both. Cheers, Markus On Jul 9, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Ed Deluca wrote:
Hi, Allow me to present a contrarian point of view. As initially conceived the loops workshops were committed to solving a while defined, but complex science problem: "What are the physical processes that define the structure and evolution of coronal loops" Three years of observations with STEREO and Hinode (in addition to continued supporting observations from SOHO, TRACE and RHESSI) have provided critical observations, models have evolved and great progress is being made. Given this, why are we not planning on closing down the Loops Workshops, declaring victory and going home? There is a real danger in continuing to isolate the "loops community" from the solar/heliospheric community. We have seen this in the past with the heliosiesmology, they spent decades talking to themselves rather then engaging with the rest of the community. So I would suggest the the Mallorca meeting be the final loops workshop and that scientists reintegrate themselves into the solar community. With respect,
Ed ____________________________________________ Dr. Markus J. Aschwanden Solar & Astrophysics Laboratory Lockheed Martin Advanced Techology Center Org. ADBS, Bldg. 252 3251 Hanover St., Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA Phone: 650-424-4001, FAX: 650-424-3994 URL: http://www.lmsal.com/~aschwand/ e-mail: aschwanden@lmsal.com <mailto:aschwanden@lmsal.com> _______________________________________ ____________________________________ _______________________________________________ Loops mailing list Loops@solar.physics.montana.edu <mailto:Loops@solar.physics.montana.edu> https://mithra.physics.montana.edu/mailman/listinfo/loops
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Dear Ed and Colleagues,
I think the Loops workshops have been one of the most engaging, lively and productive series of workshops which I've ever been involved with (possibly with the exception of the Skylab workshops). ...and in addition, the most fun!
Why?
1) a small group of dedicated scientists with a specific focus and goal
2) an international group, not just NASA or European based only.
3) cross-fertilisation between theory and observations (all observations: Hinode/STEREO/SoHO/TRACE)
4) inclusion of younger scientists in a very positive and constructive way (Fanu spoke eloquently about this at the last workshop)
5) a good mailing list which shares information and provokes discussion
I personally don't like really BIG meetings such as IAU and COSPAR.
Many of the larger meetings, for example the Hinode series simply tend to be folk presenting their own work, with very little opportunity for real discussions and establishing collaborations. Nontheless, I have tried to attend all of them.
I find small workshops where folk all work and socialise together much better. The tendancy in bigger meetings is for folk to stick to their own groups, to the people they already know and work with.
We haven't yet solved the problem we set ourselves. If we do so in the next meeting, perhaps that should be the last. Otherwise why stop a series of workshops which has been so productive?
With respect, I don't think I've seen Ed at many of the Loops meetings, although Hinode/XRT has been well represented, and as a result collaborations have been successfully established. Several XRT team members are regular participants and as a result are now working with other groups, including my own.
Before signing a death warrant, I think we should see how the meeting in Spain goes, and decide there whether or not to hold another meeting.
Best wishes, helen
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010, Ed Deluca wrote:
Hi,
Allow me to present a contrarian point of view.
As initially conceived the loops workshops were committed to solving a while defined, but complex science problem: "What are the physical processes that define the structure and evolution of coronal loops"
Three years of observations with STEREO and Hinode (in addition to continued supporting observations from SOHO, TRACE and RHESSI) have provided critical observations, models have evolved and great progress is being made.
Given this, why are we not planning on closing down the Loops Workshops, declaring victory and going home?
There is a real danger in continuing to isolate the "loops community" from the solar/heliospheric community. We have seen this in the past with the heliosiesmology, they spent decades talking to themselves rather then engaging with the rest of the community. So I would suggest the the Mallorca meeting be the final loops workshop and that scientists reintegrate themselves into the solar community.
With respect, Ed
Klimchuk, James A. (GSFC-6710) wrote:
Dear friends,
Coronal Loops 5 will take place next year in Mallorca, Spain, and it
is now time to form the Scientific Organizing Committee (SOC). We have decided to make the selection of the SOC a more formal process than it has been in the past. To that end, we have established bylaws for the Coronal Loops Workshop Series (attached). The first step was to elect a Steering Committee from among the 20 founding members---those who attended at least 3 of the first 4 workshops. This has just been completed. The next step is for the Steering Committee to elect 5 of 7 members of the SOC. The new SOC chair, Inaki Ugarte Urra, and past chair, Joan Schmelz, are automatically members. The purpose of this e-mail is to ask the broader loops community for nominees to serve on the SOC. A slate of candidates will then be presented to the Steering Committee for a vote. If you would like to nominate yourself or someone else, with their permission, please send me an e-mail at James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov mailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov by the end of the day next Monday, July 12. Sorry for the short fuse, but there are reasons for acting quickly.
Thanks,
Jim
P.S. In Mallorca, we will discuss the bylaws and whether they should be modified.
James A. Klimchuk
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Solar Physics Lab, Code 671
Bldg. 21, Rm. 158
Greenbelt, MD 20771
USA
Phone: 1-301-286-9060
Fax: 1-301-286-7194
E-mail: James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov mailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov
Home page: http://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/671/staff/bios/cs/James_Klimchuk_ssi.html
No endorsement by NASA is implied for any correspondence related to my role as an officer of professional organizations (American Geophysical Union, American Astronomical Society, International Astronomical Union).
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Helen,
Nice summary. I agree with Ed that we should periodically ask ourselves whether what we're doing makes sense, and you have answered it nicely, in my opinion.
Leon
On 7/9/2010 7:21 PM, Helen E. Mason wrote:
Dear Ed and Colleagues,
I think the Loops workshops have been one of the most engaging, lively and productive series of workshops which I've ever been involved with (possibly with the exception of the Skylab workshops). ...and in addition, the most fun!
Why?
- a small group of dedicated scientists with a specific
focus and goal
an international group, not just NASA or European based only.
cross-fertilisation between theory and observations (all observations: Hinode/STEREO/SoHO/TRACE)
inclusion of younger scientists in a very positive and constructive
way (Fanu spoke eloquently about this at the last workshop)
- a good mailing list which shares information and provokes discussion
I personally don't like really BIG meetings such as IAU and COSPAR.
Many of the larger meetings, for example the Hinode series simply tend to be folk presenting their own work, with very little opportunity for real discussions and establishing collaborations. Nontheless, I have tried to attend all of them.
I find small workshops where folk all work and socialise together much better. The tendancy in bigger meetings is for folk to stick to their own groups, to the people they already know and work with.
We haven't yet solved the problem we set ourselves. If we do so in the next meeting, perhaps that should be the last. Otherwise why stop a series of workshops which has been so productive?
With respect, I don't think I've seen Ed at many of the Loops meetings, although Hinode/XRT has been well represented, and as a result collaborations have been successfully established. Several XRT team members are regular participants and as a result are now working with other groups, including my own.
Before signing a death warrant, I think we should see how the meeting in Spain goes, and decide there whether or not to hold another meeting.
Best wishes, helen
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010, Ed Deluca wrote:
Hi,
Allow me to present a contrarian point of view.
As initially conceived the loops workshops were committed to solving a while defined, but complex science problem: "What are the physical processes that define the structure and evolution of coronal loops"
Three years of observations with STEREO and Hinode (in addition to continued supporting observations from SOHO, TRACE and RHESSI) have provided critical observations, models have evolved and great progress is being made.
Given this, why are we not planning on closing down the Loops Workshops, declaring victory and going home?
There is a real danger in continuing to isolate the "loops community" from the solar/heliospheric community. We have seen this in the past with the heliosiesmology, they spent decades talking to themselves rather then engaging with the rest of the community. So I would suggest the the Mallorca meeting be the final loops workshop and that scientists reintegrate themselves into the solar community.
With respect, Ed
Klimchuk, James A. (GSFC-6710) wrote:
Dear friends,
Coronal Loops 5 will take place next year in Mallorca, Spain,
and it is now time to form the Scientific Organizing Committee (SOC). We have decided to make the selection of the SOC a more formal process than it has been in the past. To that end, we have established bylaws for the Coronal Loops Workshop Series (attached). The first step was to elect a Steering Committee from among the 20 founding members---those who attended at least 3 of the first 4 workshops. This has just been completed. The next step is for the Steering Committee to elect 5 of 7 members of the SOC. The new SOC chair, Inaki Ugarte Urra, and past chair, Joan Schmelz, are automatically members. The purpose of this e-mail is to ask the broader loops community for nominees to serve on the SOC. A slate of candidates will then be presented to the Steering Committee for a vote. If you would like to nominate yourself or someone else, with their permission, please send me an e-mail at James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov mailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov by the end of the day next Monday, July 12. Sorry for the short fuse, but there are reasons for acting quickly.
Thanks,
Jim
P.S. In Mallorca, we will discuss the bylaws and whether they should be modified.
James A. Klimchuk
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Solar Physics Lab, Code 671
Bldg. 21, Rm. 158
Greenbelt, MD 20771
USA
Phone: 1-301-286-9060
Fax: 1-301-286-7194
E-mail: James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov mailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov
Home page: http://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/671/staff/bios/cs/James_Klimchuk_ssi.html
No endorsement by NASA is implied for any correspondence related to my role as an officer of professional organizations (American Geophysical Union, American Astronomical Society, International Astronomical Union).
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I agree with Leon that Helen has done an excellent job of explaining the value of the workshops. And Spiros made a great point that the workshops are about more than loops per se. We are trying to understand all of the magnetically closed corona, include the diffuse component, which we think of as being made of indistinguishable loops. Coronal heating is an intimate part of this problem. Finally, I believe the loops community has been very active at the larger meetings and has interacted well with the broader community. We must continue this, otherwise Ed's valid warning will become an unfortunate reality.
Thanks, Jim
-----Original Message----- From: loops-bounces@solar.physics.montana.edu [mailto:loops- bounces@solar.physics.montana.edu] On Behalf Of Leon Golub Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:55 PM To: loops@mithra.physics.montana.edu Subject: Re: [Loops] Loops Workshop SOC
Helen,
Nice summary. I agree with Ed that we should periodically ask ourselves whether what we're doing makes sense, and you have answered it nicely, in my opinion.
Leon
On 7/9/2010 7:21 PM, Helen E. Mason wrote:
Dear Ed and Colleagues,
I think the Loops workshops have been one of the most engaging, lively and productive series of workshops which I've ever been involved with (possibly with the exception of the Skylab workshops). ...and in addition, the most fun!
Why?
- a small group of dedicated scientists with a specific
focus and goal
an international group, not just NASA or European based only.
cross-fertilisation between theory and observations (all observations: Hinode/STEREO/SoHO/TRACE)
inclusion of younger scientists in a very positive and constructive
way (Fanu spoke eloquently about this at the last workshop)
- a good mailing list which shares information and provokes discussion
I personally don't like really BIG meetings such as IAU and COSPAR.
Many of the larger meetings, for example the Hinode series simply tend to be folk presenting their own work, with very little opportunity for real discussions and establishing collaborations. Nontheless, I have tried to attend all of them.
I find small workshops where folk all work and socialise together much better. The tendancy in bigger meetings is for folk to stick to their own groups, to the people they already know and work with.
We haven't yet solved the problem we set ourselves. If we do so in the next meeting, perhaps that should be the last. Otherwise why stop a series of workshops which has been so productive?
With respect, I don't think I've seen Ed at many of the Loops meetings, although Hinode/XRT has been well represented, and as a result collaborations have been successfully established. Several XRT team members are regular participants and as a result are now working with other groups, including my own.
Before signing a death warrant, I think we should see how the meeting in Spain goes, and decide there whether or not to hold another meeting.
Best wishes, helen
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010, Ed Deluca wrote:
Hi,
Allow me to present a contrarian point of view.
As initially conceived the loops workshops were committed to solving a while defined, but complex science problem: "What are the physical processes that define the structure and evolution of coronal loops"
Three years of observations with STEREO and Hinode (in addition to continued supporting observations from SOHO, TRACE and RHESSI) have provided critical observations, models have evolved and great progress is being made.
Given this, why are we not planning on closing down the Loops Workshops, declaring victory and going home?
There is a real danger in continuing to isolate the "loops community" from the solar/heliospheric community. We have seen this in the past with the heliosiesmology, they spent decades talking to themselves rather then engaging with the rest of the community. So I would suggest the the Mallorca meeting be the final loops workshop and that scientists reintegrate themselves into the solar community.
With respect, Ed
Klimchuk, James A. (GSFC-6710) wrote:
Dear friends,
Coronal Loops 5 will take place next year in Mallorca, Spain,
and it is now time to form the Scientific Organizing Committee (SOC). We have decided to make the selection of the SOC a more formal process than it has been in the past. To that end, we have established bylaws for the Coronal Loops Workshop Series (attached). The first step was to elect a Steering Committee from among the 20 founding members---those who
attended
at least 3 of the first 4 workshops. This has just been completed. The next step is for the Steering Committee to elect 5 of 7 members of the SOC. The new SOC chair, Inaki Ugarte Urra, and past chair, Joan Schmelz, are automatically members. The purpose of this e-mail is to ask the broader loops community for nominees to serve on the SOC. A slate of candidates will then be presented to the Steering Committee for a vote. If you would like to nominate yourself or someone else, with their permission, please send me an e-mail at James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov mailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov by the end of the day next Monday, July 12. Sorry for the short fuse, but there are reasons for acting quickly.
Thanks,
Jim
P.S. In Mallorca, we will discuss the bylaws and whether they should be modified.
James A. Klimchuk
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Solar Physics Lab, Code 671
Bldg. 21, Rm. 158
Greenbelt, MD 20771
USA
Phone: 1-301-286-9060
Fax: 1-301-286-7194
E-mail: James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov
mailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov
Home page: http://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/671/staff/bios/cs/James_Klimchuk_ssi.html
No endorsement by NASA is implied for any correspondence related to
my
role as an officer of professional organizations (American Geophysical Union, American Astronomical Society, International Astronomical Union).
Loops mailing list Loops@solar.physics.montana.edu https://mithra.physics.montana.edu/mailman/listinfo/loops
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Hello,
If someone of you are attending the SHINE conference at the end of this month, would you like to give a brief summary of lessons learned on the issue of loop physics at the DEM Techniques and Implications session?
Cheers, Vinay
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 19:55:23 +0200 From: Leon Golub golub@head.cfa.harvard.edu
Helen,
Nice summary. I agree with Ed that we should periodically ask ourselves whether what we're doing makes sense, and you have answered it nicely, in my opinion.
Leon
On 7/9/2010 7:21 PM, Helen E. Mason wrote:
Dear Ed and Colleagues,
I think the Loops workshops have been one of the most engaging, lively and productive series of workshops which I've ever been involved with (possibly with the exception of the Skylab workshops). ...and in addition, the most fun!
Why?
- a small group of dedicated scientists with a specific
focus and goal
an international group, not just NASA or European based only.
cross-fertilisation between theory and observations (all observations: Hinode/STEREO/SoHO/TRACE)
inclusion of younger scientists in a very positive and constructive
way (Fanu spoke eloquently about this at the last workshop)
- a good mailing list which shares information and provokes discussion
I personally don't like really BIG meetings such as IAU and COSPAR.
Many of the larger meetings, for example the Hinode series simply tend to be folk presenting their own work, with very little opportunity for real discussions and establishing collaborations. Nontheless, I have tried to attend all of them.
I find small workshops where folk all work and socialise together much better. The tendancy in bigger meetings is for folk to stick to their own groups, to the people they already know and work with.
We haven't yet solved the problem we set ourselves. If we do so in the next meeting, perhaps that should be the last. Otherwise why stop a series of workshops which has been so productive?
With respect, I don't think I've seen Ed at many of the Loops meetings, although Hinode/XRT has been well represented, and as a result collaborations have been successfully established. Several XRT team members are regular participants and as a result are now working with other groups, including my own.
Before signing a death warrant, I think we should see how the meeting in Spain goes, and decide there whether or not to hold another meeting.
Best wishes, helen
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010, Ed Deluca wrote:
Hi,
Allow me to present a contrarian point of view.
As initially conceived the loops workshops were committed to solving a while defined, but complex science problem: "What are the physical processes that define the structure and evolution of coronal loops"
Three years of observations with STEREO and Hinode (in addition to continued supporting observations from SOHO, TRACE and RHESSI) have provided critical observations, models have evolved and great progress is being made.
Given this, why are we not planning on closing down the Loops Workshops, declaring victory and going home?
There is a real danger in continuing to isolate the "loops community" from the solar/heliospheric community. We have seen this in the past with the heliosiesmology, they spent decades talking to themselves rather then engaging with the rest of the community. So I would suggest the the Mallorca meeting be the final loops workshop and that scientists reintegrate themselves into the solar community.
With respect, Ed
Klimchuk, James A. (GSFC-6710) wrote:
Dear friends,
Coronal Loops 5 will take place next year in Mallorca, Spain,
and it is now time to form the Scientific Organizing Committee (SOC). We have decided to make the selection of the SOC a more formal process than it has been in the past. To that end, we have established bylaws for the Coronal Loops Workshop Series (attached). The first step was to elect a Steering Committee from among the 20 founding members---those who attended at least 3 of the first 4 workshops. This has just been completed. The next step is for the Steering Committee to elect 5 of 7 members of the SOC. The new SOC chair, Inaki Ugarte Urra, and past chair, Joan Schmelz, are automatically members. The purpose of this e-mail is to ask the broader loops community for nominees to serve on the SOC. A slate of candidates will then be presented to the Steering Committee for a vote. If you would like to nominate yourself or someone else, with their permission, please send me an e-mail at James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov mailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov by the end of the day next Monday, July 12. Sorry for the short fuse, but there are reasons for acting quickly.
Thanks,
Jim
P.S. In Mallorca, we will discuss the bylaws and whether they should be modified.
James A. Klimchuk
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Solar Physics Lab, Code 671
Bldg. 21, Rm. 158
Greenbelt, MD 20771
USA
Phone: 1-301-286-9060
Fax: 1-301-286-7194
E-mail: James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov mailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov
Home page: http://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/671/staff/bios/cs/James_Klimchuk_ssi.html
No endorsement by NASA is implied for any correspondence related to my role as an officer of professional organizations (American Geophysical Union, American Astronomical Society, International Astronomical Union).
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Dear Loop enthusiasts,
Attached please find a paper on a new magnetic field modeling method of coronal loops.
Share and enjoy,
Markus & Anne
Aschwanden,M.J. and Sandman, A.W. 2010, Astronomical Journal, 140, 723-734 URL1="http://www.lmsal.com/~aschwand/eprints/2010_bootstrap.pdf" Bootstrapping the coronal magnetic field with STEREO: Unipolar potential field modeling
____________________________________________ Dr. Markus J. Aschwanden Solar & Astrophysics Laboratory Lockheed Martin Advanced Techology Center Org. ADBS, Bldg. 252 3251 Hanover St., Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA Phone: 650-424-4001, FAX: 650-424-3994 URL: http://www.lmsal.com/~aschwand/ e-mail: aschwanden@lmsal.com _______________________________________
Dear Loop community,
I agree fully with Helen and Markus (that's a sentence I didn't think I would say too often!!).
The depth of discussion at the loop workshops (whether observational or theoretical) has been excellent and well beyond what one would get at other gatherings. We do not need to go over all the basics all the time but can really get under the skin of the real issues.
As well as being a very focused, targeted workshop, the loop meetings have allowed us to bring on many members of the younger community in a way that a much larger meeting just cannot do.
Given the coverage of SDO now it may well be the case that all our loop/coronal heating/whatever problems are solved. However I believe that it is more likely the case that these observations will generate even more issues for us to discuss!
As for the social side...well, the stories one could tell....
Let's look forward to LOOPS 2011 with anticipation that it could/should be the best yet.
Thanks, Robert
Sent from my iPad
On 9 Jul 2010, at 18:21, "Helen E. Mason" H.E.Mason@damtp.cam.ac.uk wrote:
Dear Ed and Colleagues,
I think the Loops workshops have been one of the most engaging, lively and productive series of workshops which I've ever been involved with (possibly with the exception of the Skylab workshops). ...and in addition, the most fun!
Why?
- a small group of dedicated scientists with a specific
focus and goal
an international group, not just NASA or European based only.
cross-fertilisation between theory and observations (all observations:
Hinode/STEREO/SoHO/TRACE)
- inclusion of younger scientists in a very positive and constructive way
(Fanu spoke eloquently about this at the last workshop)
- a good mailing list which shares information and provokes discussion
I personally don't like really BIG meetings such as IAU and COSPAR.
Many of the larger meetings, for example the Hinode series simply tend to be folk presenting their own work, with very little opportunity for real discussions and establishing collaborations. Nontheless, I have tried to attend all of them.
I find small workshops where folk all work and socialise together much better. The tendancy in bigger meetings is for folk to stick to their own groups, to the people they already know and work with.
We haven't yet solved the problem we set ourselves. If we do so in the next meeting, perhaps that should be the last. Otherwise why stop a series of workshops which has been so productive?
With respect, I don't think I've seen Ed at many of the Loops meetings, although Hinode/XRT has been well represented, and as a result collaborations have been successfully established. Several XRT team members are regular participants and as a result are now working with other groups, including my own.
Before signing a death warrant, I think we should see how the meeting in Spain goes, and decide there whether or not to hold another meeting.
Best wishes, helen
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010, Ed Deluca wrote:
Hi,
Allow me to present a contrarian point of view.
As initially conceived the loops workshops were committed to solving a while defined, but complex science problem: "What are the physical processes that define the structure and evolution of coronal loops"
Three years of observations with STEREO and Hinode (in addition to continued supporting observations from SOHO, TRACE and RHESSI) have provided critical observations, models have evolved and great progress is being made.
Given this, why are we not planning on closing down the Loops Workshops, declaring victory and going home?
There is a real danger in continuing to isolate the "loops community" from the solar/heliospheric community. We have seen this in the past with the heliosiesmology, they spent decades talking to themselves rather then engaging with the rest of the community. So I would suggest the the Mallorca meeting be the final loops workshop and that scientists reintegrate themselves into the solar community.
With respect, Ed
Klimchuk, James A. (GSFC-6710) wrote:
Dear friends,
Coronal Loops 5 will take place next year in Mallorca, Spain, and it
is now time to form the Scientific Organizing Committee (SOC). We have decided to make the selection of the SOC a more formal process than it has been in the past. To that end, we have established bylaws for the Coronal Loops Workshop Series (attached). The first step was to elect a Steering Committee from among the 20 founding members---those who attended at least 3 of the first 4 workshops. This has just been completed. The next step is for the Steering Committee to elect 5 of 7 members of the SOC. The new SOC chair, Inaki Ugarte Urra, and past chair, Joan Schmelz, are automatically members. The purpose of this e-mail is to ask the broader loops community for nominees to serve on the SOC. A slate of candidates will then be presented to the Steering Committee for a vote. If you would like to nominate yourself or someone else, with their permission, please send me an e-mail at James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov mailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov by the end of the day next Monday, July 12. Sorry for the short fuse, but there are reasons for acting quickly.
Thanks,
Jim
P.S. In Mallorca, we will discuss the bylaws and whether they should be modified.
James A. Klimchuk
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Solar Physics Lab, Code 671
Bldg. 21, Rm. 158
Greenbelt, MD 20771
USA
Phone: 1-301-286-9060
Fax: 1-301-286-7194
E-mail: James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov mailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov
Home page: http://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/671/staff/bios/cs/James_Klimchuk_ssi.html
No endorsement by NASA is implied for any correspondence related to my role as an officer of professional organizations (American Geophysical Union, American Astronomical Society, International Astronomical Union).
Loops mailing list Loops@solar.physics.montana.edu https://mithra.physics.montana.edu/mailman/listinfo/loops
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Hi Ed,
Could you ask if any of the loops group folks are going to be at SHINE, and if so, would they like to present a brief description of the current status in the DEM session?
Thanks, Vinay
PS: I tried to send the email from my CfA account, but internet connectivity is too unstable and I have no idea if it succeeded..
On Jul 9, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Ed Deluca wrote:
Hi,
Allow me to present a contrarian point of view.
As initially conceived the loops workshops were committed to solving a while defined, but complex science problem: "What are the physical processes that define the structure and evolution of coronal loops"
Three years of observations with STEREO and Hinode (in addition to continued supporting observations from SOHO, TRACE and RHESSI) have provided critical observations, models have evolved and great progress is being made.
Given this, why are we not planning on closing down the Loops Workshops, declaring victory and going home?
There is a real danger in continuing to isolate the "loops community" from the solar/heliospheric community. We have seen this in the past with the heliosiesmology, they spent decades talking to themselves rather then engaging with the rest of the community. So I would suggest the the Mallorca meeting be the final loops workshop and that scientists reintegrate themselves into the solar community.
With respect, Ed
Klimchuk, James A. (GSFC-6710) wrote:
Dear friends,
Coronal Loops 5 will take place next year in Mallorca, Spain, and it is now time to form the Scientific Organizing Committee (SOC). We have decided to make the selection of the SOC a more formal process than it has been in the past. To that end, we have established bylaws for the Coronal Loops Workshop Series (attached). The first step was to elect a Steering Committee from among the 20 founding members---those who attended at least 3 of the first 4 workshops. This has just been completed. The next step is for the Steering Committee to elect 5 of 7 members of the SOC. The new SOC chair, Inaki Ugarte Urra, and past chair, Joan Schmelz, are automatically members. The purpose of this e-mail is to ask the broader loops community for nominees to serve on the SOC. A slate of candidates will then be presented to the Steering Committee for a vote. If you would like to nominate yourself or someone else, with their permission, please send me an e-mail at James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov <mailto:James.A.Klimchuk@nasa.gov> by the end of the day next Monday, July 12. Sorry for the short fuse, but there are reasons for acting quickly.
Thanks,
Jim
P.S. In Mallorca, we will discuss the bylaws and whether they should be modified.
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